Legit F top is boring and not fun to chase after after all it is simply grinding money which is simple, pvp however, is more interesting and brings a lot of people, I for sure only join for the pvp not f top etc. A lot of things you guy said are a bunch of whack first off, only talk about HCF and pvp if you really know, just sayin, secondly the group wanting hcf and pvp left because all factions has nowadays are wusses to scared to pvp because of the unfair mcmmo etc, and only a few top factions that have a scandal every once in a while.