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When will players on Foxcraft be able to have a opinion.
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lol y r u so mad
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Hello,
Here's the thing, I am either going to allow the word fully and have it have no punishment, or I'm not going to allow the word at all. If we allow it people will use it derogatorily and then claim it was the other way, we've had that issue since day one. I'm not going to have to let the staff decide if it was offensive or not because we both know people will just exploit that and make it a bigger issue than it is. Then the staff team gets all the hate for it. Also, what is offensive to one person may not be to another, so you can't have that big of a gray area without it making people upset. I would prefer the word to not be allowed at all because there is no difference between 2 gay people making jokes about being gay and 2 black people saying the n word, but we don't allow the n word at all so why should we allow this? I understand that it's probably frustrating but we can't please each side, and not having the word allowed at all avoids more issues.
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Here's the thing, I am either going to allow the word fully and have it have no punishment, or I'm not going to allow the word at all. If we allow it people will use it derogatorily and then claim it was the other way, we've had that issue since day one. I'm not going to have to let the staff decide if it was offensive or not because we both know people will just exploit that and make it a bigger issue than it is. Then the staff team gets all the hate for it. Also, what is offensive to one person may not be to another, so you can't have that big of a gray area without it making people upset. I would prefer the word to not be allowed at all because there is no difference between 2 gay people making jokes about being gay and 2 black people saying the n word, but we don't allow the n word at all so why should we allow this? I understand that it's probably frustrating but we can't please each side, and not having the word allowed at all avoids more issues.
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Foxcraft is not worth it, it's about time to move on into a new game/server
The growth of it (and the mentality of the staff team) since i joined the server is really really disappointing...................
Contrary to my "new member" status and account creation date, i played since 2016 (which is longer then most of the staff team). So those salty f*** can now stop rage typing "yOu dIdN'T evEn pLaY fOr tHaT LonG, sTfU nooB!".
The growth of it (and the mentality of the staff team) since i joined the server is really really disappointing...................
Contrary to my "new member" status and account creation date, i played since 2016 (which is longer then most of the staff team). So those salty f*** can now stop rage typing "yOu dIdN'T evEn pLaY fOr tHaT LonG, sTfU nooB!".
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Thank you for responding. I understand what you are saying, and even though I don’t believe the two words should be seen as the same thing. I respect the answer
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My dude, I think this server might just not work with you. If you don't like how the staff or other players act, then yes it probably is best you try somewhere else that better meets your needs. But coming here and saying these things is not productive to anyone and there are quite a few of us who genuinely enjoy this server and don't think the same as you do.
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Ayza expressing his radical opinions with members on the server, expressing opinions. lol! i dont c y u car so muc u don even play XD!
Unlike me, an intellectual, with a grasp of the meaning of life, a man with 500 IQ, who keeps his radical opinions kept away; sealed in a box
Unlike me, an intellectual, with a grasp of the meaning of life, a man with 500 IQ, who keeps his radical opinions kept away; sealed in a box
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Using the word "gay" to describe something that isn't gay in a negative manner can be seen as offensive to some members of the LGBT+ community. This can be seen as derogative and thus, offensive.
I agree with Tyler's point that anything homophobic should not be immediately shunned which includes using the word gay, but instead looked at from a wider view and then determined whether or not what was said was homophobic.
During my time as staff, I have seen members of staff mute incorrectly when dealing with someone talking about things of this manner. It is quite confusing and difficult to determine what is homophobic and what is not - many different individuals may see something that could be offensive to some as not offensive at all, and this is a prime example of it. Calling your boyfriend gay in a joke way when he may not be doing things which are classed as gay may be a funny joke to you could be offensive to others. Emphasis on the could.
This part is in reply to the entire thread:
Staff should not be berated and insulted for accidentally wrongly muting a player. When they correctly mute a player, there will always be another player annoyed and claim that what they did was not against the rules, and vice versa. You should take this into account next time you see staff punish someone.
In this thread I've seen that ex staff members and current staff members understanding this, but players who have never been staff members before not understanding this. Maybe you should try to look at this problem from their point of view instead of being close minded. It is not an easy task being staff.
I agree with Tyler's point that anything homophobic should not be immediately shunned which includes using the word gay, but instead looked at from a wider view and then determined whether or not what was said was homophobic.
During my time as staff, I have seen members of staff mute incorrectly when dealing with someone talking about things of this manner. It is quite confusing and difficult to determine what is homophobic and what is not - many different individuals may see something that could be offensive to some as not offensive at all, and this is a prime example of it. Calling your boyfriend gay in a joke way when he may not be doing things which are classed as gay may be a funny joke to you could be offensive to others. Emphasis on the could.
This part is in reply to the entire thread:
Staff should not be berated and insulted for accidentally wrongly muting a player. When they correctly mute a player, there will always be another player annoyed and claim that what they did was not against the rules, and vice versa. You should take this into account next time you see staff punish someone.
In this thread I've seen that ex staff members and current staff members understanding this, but players who have never been staff members before not understanding this. Maybe you should try to look at this problem from their point of view instead of being close minded. It is not an easy task being staff.
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We`re all humans with our own opinions however I still don`t allow the word even if its a joke. Being part of the staff team is fun but takes alot of
responsibility.
I do not understand why people get mad against staff members because they ``false mute'' somebody. If they start making homophobic jokes with your name wouldn`t you rather have that certain player muted? instead of complaining for other players.
Try to see what the other player`s perspectives are and maybe think twice what would happen if we allowed the word.
-Easily exploited
-bigger issues
-players get offended due the fact that they were just ``joking'' about it
The staff team is always trying their best to keep the community under control. I do not have anything against gay people but please just know we`re only here to help.
responsibility.
I do not understand why people get mad against staff members because they ``false mute'' somebody. If they start making homophobic jokes with your name wouldn`t you rather have that certain player muted? instead of complaining for other players.
Try to see what the other player`s perspectives are and maybe think twice what would happen if we allowed the word.
-Easily exploited
-bigger issues
-players get offended due the fact that they were just ``joking'' about it
The staff team is always trying their best to keep the community under control. I do not have anything against gay people but please just know we`re only here to help.
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