Closed Wanting Old Prison Back

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Zexiah

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This isn't gonna be a lot. But i can confirm all of the old players wanted old prison back. For the reason of, there was no glitches like their is now. There was also no /speed 10. Which a lot of old players do not want. The new prison system of adding stacked items, which made more and more glitches adding to a dupe. That is still here today. I know for almost a fact that this won't be accepted. I just wanted to show how the old players react to the new things of foxcraft. I personally didn't want a new update. All i wanted was it to be reset. The old map was good. The old auction system was good. These new updates have ruined foxcraft prison but cloakfox has yet to know how and why. The members that were apart of the old foxcraft prison really want it back. Planning the new prison was thought to keep the map and things. But it reset everything including the map, the commands, the auction house system. I don't plan on this being accepted. I just want cloak to realize what the old players want and the reason they want it.

Please watch the pole closely and if the players all want old prison back. Please, please accept old prison back


Also, all the new players have dubs of p4 from buying stacks of diamond armor and puting 1 p4 book in a anvil.... Just to let you know how you let that happen
 
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Even though this is 4 weeks old, if there are always 40+ people on, it can't be that bad.
 
[This may be grave digging but idc]
I can see both sides to why it should be changed back, and why it shouldn't.

Why it should.
The old players of Foxcraft have been loyal and been there from the start. They want the old prison. New players wouldn't care too much if it was one map or the other, so you're not losing players from that aspect. And knowing what you do now in 2017, you can even make it better than what it was and still give all the people that want the old prison back satisfied. I can't speak for others, but I find it unfun that sharpness 5 and prot 4 and gapples are not rare anymore. You get around 8 gapples just from a /kit. I don't think that's right. I find the first prison to be the best because you actually had to work and grind for just simple things to pvp in. On another note, you also had active guards on the server. Which as much as people hate being pvp-blocked by guards. It still is a important thing for A PRISON server. Another thing I liked about the old map is that you had to usually walk everywhere, now on this map. You can teleport almost everywhere. Before you would have to walk through the majority of the paths and forcefully encounter the bad guys and gang that want to shank you. Now, you can just /warp everywhere. I'm a bit two faced on this opinion because I Believe after a bit of a nooby being harassed by a diamond guy, you should be able to avoid it. But At the same time I don't want full p4 people avoiding pvp just because. One last thing about the map that many others will probably disagree about, but I liked the line camping. I found it thrilling that you can escape death if you're just quick enough, or stealthy enough. But now, if you go out there, and get hit. You're fucked. I get that that's what it's supposed to do, but I never liked it :v.

Why it shouldn't.
The new round of players of Prison have donated, and donated for what they seen. It would be unfair to them to just take away what they donated for just because old players want the non pay to win prison back. The maps look a bit better now, and there is new and better sufficient plugins that work better and makes the game more convenient. And tbh I wouldn't be suprised if the staff in general didn't have the old map anymore. It's old. It's like 2013. That's 4 years ago. If they don't have it, we would have to rebuild it. Idk about other people but I would help to gather videos of the old server to literally build it 1:1 scale of it.

What I would do.
If I was the owner of Foxcraft, I would try to figure out what the player base is. See how many old players are still currently playing the new one. If it's around half and half then I would suggest having a suggestion period for a month where players say what they donated for and what they still want. And compromise how to make it like the old server, but not rip away there donation perks. If it were to come down to a lot of donors didn't want what they would get on the (New) Old prison. Then you could give them a rank transfer. If it was 25% old players and 75% new players. I think I would see how the new players felt about it. If they didn't mind, I would try out the old servers till, but with all the donation perks. If somehow it was 75% old players and 25% new players. Then I think it's obvious that you should switch it back.

Hopefully this reply isn't wasted and someone sees this :v
 
[This may be grave digging but idc]
I can see both sides to why it should be changed back, and why it shouldn't.

Why it should.
The old players of Foxcraft have been loyal and been there from the start. They want the old prison. New players wouldn't care too much if it was one map or the other, so you're not losing players from that aspect. And knowing what you do now in 2017, you can even make it better than what it was and still give all the people that want the old prison back satisfied. I can't speak for others, but I find it unfun that sharpness 5 and prot 4 and gapples are not rare anymore. You get around 8 gapples just from a /kit. I don't think that's right. I find the first prison to be the best because you actually had to work and grind for just simple things to pvp in. On another note, you also had active guards on the server. Which as much as people hate being pvp-blocked by guards. It still is a important thing for A PRISON server. Another thing I liked about the old map is that you had to usually walk everywhere, now on this map. You can teleport almost everywhere. Before you would have to walk through the majority of the paths and forcefully encounter the bad guys and gang that want to shank you. Now, you can just /warp everywhere. I'm a bit two faced on this opinion because I Believe after a bit of a nooby being harassed by a diamond guy, you should be able to avoid it. But At the same time I don't want full p4 people avoiding pvp just because. One last thing about the map that many others will probably disagree about, but I liked the line camping. I found it thrilling that you can escape death if you're just quick enough, or stealthy enough. But now, if you go out there, and get hit. You're fucked. I get that that's what it's supposed to do, but I never liked it :v.

Why it shouldn't.
The new round of players of Prison have donated, and donated for what they seen. It would be unfair to them to just take away what they donated for just because old players want the non pay to win prison back. The maps look a bit better now, and there is new and better sufficient plugins that work better and makes the game more convenient. And tbh I wouldn't be suprised if the staff in general didn't have the old map anymore. It's old. It's like 2013. That's 4 years ago. If they don't have it, we would have to rebuild it. Idk about other people but I would help to gather videos of the old server to literally build it 1:1 scale of it.

What I would do.
If I was the owner of Foxcraft, I would try to figure out what the player base is. See how many old players are still currently playing the new one. If it's around half and half then I would suggest having a suggestion period for a month where players say what they donated for and what they still want. And compromise how to make it like the old server, but not rip away there donation perks. If it were to come down to a lot of donors didn't want what they would get on the (New) Old prison. Then you could give them a rank transfer. If it was 25% old players and 75% new players. I think I would see how the new players felt about it. If they didn't mind, I would try out the old servers till, but with all the donation perks. If somehow it was 75% old players and 25% new players. Then I think it's obvious that you should switch it back.

Hopefully this reply isn't wasted and someone sees this :v
the feels :(
 
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Old prison is from different versions (1.7) which means the whole server would have to be changed to make it 1.7 the plugins wouldn't work if it was made higher. Even if the map isn't gone it would take a lot of work to make it the same and certain things wouldn't even exist.
 
I agree, I loved old prison it was the best thing ever. However, you don't understand you cant just change the map and it will go back to normal. Mcfoxcraft runs in 1.8 or higher now, that prison and it's plugins are built for 1.7. There's a lot more involved than you would think. So idk if you have 100 hours+ to make a entire new prison but some of us don't.
 
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