Closed Suggestion: Kitpvp

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MTTS

MTTS

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For which gamemode is this suggestion:
Kitpvp

Description of suggestion:
There are a lot of hackers playing on kitpvp. It'd be great to add an anticheat like Phoenix. With this plugin, hackers will be banned by console. If you think bans by console are bad/unfair, well, I can assure you that this plugin will keep the obvious hackers with hacked clients like Wurst etc. away from Foxcraft.
Of course there are a lot of anticheats out there (Gcheat with judgement day, Guardian, watchdog,...). I just want to improve the server and protect it against hackers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45TEIl-_-M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdW8mq8Hi98

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MTTS
 
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Well, the staff members are not online 24/7. To be honest, the anti cheat kick system isn't correct and doesn't work properly. It has no effect on hackers.
 
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A few months ago they had an anticheat that auto banned players, but there were hundreds of false bans from it, as you said a few messages ago, staff are not on 100% of the time, but to be fair, hackers are not on 100% of the time, the auto kick in my opinion is very useful, and probably the best we will get for a while
 
-1 Lots of false unbans could happen and you wouldnt really know who was and wasnt hacking. i've personally gotten banned from the kitpvp anticheat. This is a terrible idea.

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MTTS said:
Well, the staff members are not online 24/7. To be honest, the anti cheat kick system isn't correct and doesn't work properly. It has no effect on hackers.
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The kick system allows us staff to easily be skeptical and watch the player, as soon as I see someone gets kicked I go and watch them. There is nothing wrong and having an auto ban system used to be a thing and was not any help but rather false banning more people than hackers
 
It's funny how you guys don't want an anticheat on the server. It's like you guys want people to hack on it. About the autobans and falsebans, there is a minimal chance of getting a false ban with a plugin like Guardian. The anticheat kick system doesn't work on ghost clients. It is useless because a hacker can just join the server again.
 
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MTTS said:
It's funny how you guys don't want an anticheat on the server. It's like you guys want people to hack on it. About the autobans and falsebans, there is a minimal chance of getting a false ban with a plugin like Guardian. The anticheat kick system doesn't work on ghost clients. It is useless because a hacker can just join the server again.
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Guardian can ban people who butterfly click. I butterfly and Ill get banned as soon as I do. And by the way, butterfly clicking isnt a cheat. so its a false ban.

Second, we have staff who deal with hackers.
 
MTTS said:
It's funny how you guys don't want an anticheat on the server. It's like you guys want people to hack on it. About the autobans and falsebans, there is a minimal chance of getting a false ban with a plugin like Guardian. The anticheat kick system doesn't work on ghost clients. It is useless because a hacker can just join the server again.
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we have already had a anti cheat; however, it did not work to its expectation. Rather false banning many players. The current kick system is prefect.
 
ThePowerOfSix said:
Guardian can ban people who butterfly click. I butterfly and Ill get banned as soon as I do. And by the way, butterfly clicking isnt a cheat. so its a false ban.

Second, we have staff who deal with hackers.
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Don't butterfly click like other players. If you wanna try hard, go join painfulpvp's fac and butterfly here but it's not necessary on a server like fox..
 
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ProbationZ said:
we have already had a anti cheat; however, it did not work to its expectation. Rather false banning many players. The current kick system is prefect.
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Oh is it? I got kicked for impossible movement. And do I hack? I dont think so. It isnt perfect. By the way, if you are so worried about getting false banned, then Why not record yourself pvping? In case you get banned, you have proof you're Legit while hackers who also got autobanned have no proof.
ThePowerOfSix said:
Guardian can ban people who butterfly click. I butterfly and Ill get banned as soon as I do. And by the way, butterfly clicking isnt a cheat. so its a false ban.

Second, we have staff who deal with hackers.
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Yes there is staff that deals with hackers but not all staff members play minecraft pvp and sometimes they can falseban too. I dont understand why you dont want an anticheat. It seems a little suspicious mate. Butterfly clicking, Jitterclicking, Ok whatever. You dont need to click that fast. Dont forget youre in kitpvp and not in potpvp. In kitpvp, your cps doesnt make much difference.
 
MTTS said:
Oh is it? I got kicked for impossible movement. And do I hack? I dont think so. It isnt perfect. By the way, if you are so worried about getting false banned, then Why not record yourself pvping? In case you get banned, you have proof you're Legit while hackers who also got autobanned have no proof.

Yes there is staff that deals with hackers but not all staff members play minecraft pvp and sometimes they can falseban too. I dont understand why you dont want an anticheat. It seems a little suspicious mate. Butterfly clicking, Jitterclicking, Ok whatever. You dont need to click that fast. Dont forget youre in kitpvp and not in potpvp. In kitpvp, your cps doesnt make much difference.
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When you're trash, it doesn't matter.

(it does)


anyways the anticheat is horrible. it false bans everyone
 
ThePowerOfSix said:
When you're trash, it doesn't matter.

(it does)


anyways the anticheat is horrible. it false bans everyone
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Oh come on dude. I'm not trash and you know that.

Actually, it doesn't. I click 7cps and that's more than enough to beat anyone on kitpvp. Jitterclicking and butterfly clicking is only a little effective when you have amazing hit registration and the more you click the more you hit. On This server, This hit registration is delayed and when You're butterfly clicking or not, it has no effect. You'll get the same amount of hits with 6cps as with 15 or 20. Also, your Ping makes the difference. Not your cps.
 
I click with 10cps now xd
Staff members try to moderate their best and get on but I know there are lots of hackers online when we arn't.
It would be good to get a new anti cheat system but I don't know if that means Affix's plugins have to be changed or whatnot and if cloak is willing to do it.
 
MTTS said:
Oh come on dude. I'm not trash and you know that.

Actually, it doesn't. I click 7cps and that's more than enough to beat anyone on kitpvp. Jitterclicking and butterfly clicking is only a little effective when you have amazing hit registration and the more you click the more you hit. On This server, This hit registration is delayed and when You're butterfly clicking or not, it has no effect. You'll get the same amount of hits with 6cps as with 15 or 20. Also, your Ping makes the difference. Not your cps.
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The point is. Anticheat was a thing earlier before. It was so bad. It banned people who didnt hack more than it banned people who actually hacked.

Its pretty awful. Having bad ping could get you banned as well.


Just a solid -1
 
MTTS said:
Oh is it? I got kicked for impossible movement. And do I hack? I dont think so. It isnt perfect. By the way, if you are so worried about getting false banned, then Why not record yourself pvping? In case you get banned, you have proof you're Legit while hackers who also got autobanned have no proof.

Yes there is staff that deals with hackers but not all staff members play minecraft pvp and sometimes they can falseban too. I dont understand why you dont want an anticheat. It seems a little suspicious mate. Butterfly clicking, Jitterclicking, Ok whatever. You dont need to click that fast. Dont forget youre in kitpvp and not in potpvp. In kitpvp, your cps doesnt make much difference.
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Yes it sometimes kick you if you are block glitched and other times, but wouldn't you rather get falsely kicked instead of banned, auto ban is not getting added for sure.
 
-1 The anti-cheat system gets worked on often most players just don't know it gets worked on because leon decides to keep it to himself. As stated above there would be a lot of false bans and there would be no way for the staff to sort out who would be lying and who was telling the truth.
 
Peytonb56 said:
-1 The anti-cheat system gets worked on often most players just don't know it gets worked on because leon decides to keep it to himself. As stated above there would be a lot of false bans and there would be no way for the staff to sort out who would be lying and who was telling the truth.
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You guys are just too nice. Why can’t foxcraft kitpvp be like other kitpvp servers? I mean, there are more hackers than pingers and laggers out there. Every day, This staff has to ban 20-50 hackers while there are still 30 more playing. That’s Why I want an anticheat. The time of hacked clients is almost over. More and more people start using ghost clients. The anti kicksytem doesnt detect that and trust me, Some of the ghost clients are undetectible, even for the top staff members. Now, I’m not a staff member or Developer but if I was one, I’d atleast try plugings and make sure the server is a little more protected than it is right now. Everyone on this thread disagrees with me so this wont happen. I’m just letting you know that this server isn’t protected and if you want more players, you’ll have to do something for it.
 
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