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SprinkledDonut

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  • Your in-game name: SprinkledDonut
  • *Is your suggestion for the server and/or forum: Server
  • *For which gamemode is this suggestion: KitPvP
  • *Description of suggestion: Let me start out by saying, yes we have anti cheat, I know that. I don't think it's very efficient with auto banning. I suggest we bring back HPatrol, and hear me out before you auto deny this. I was an HPatrol once, so was @Slabo , and @ExInfinity , and @Micm_ . We all had the potential to become staff, and we did. Sab is a current admin, Micm was a former admin and mod, exinfinity was a former helper/hpatrol and I am currently a mod. If all of them are just banning hackers on KitPvP and are able to impress the staff enough to promote them, why don't we bring that system back? It could bring us in more talent to the staff team, like it already had done in the past.
  • Possible side effects of suggestion: Less hackers, more efficient bans/less false bans (Mods+ will have to review and confirm it is a hacker) Possibly more players on kitpvp, and possibly new additions to the staff team if they can prove their worth.
  • Screenshot/Video showing suggestion: I do personally think Kitpvp needs a player base, not really a revamp. It's honestly fine the way it is (kit, map, etc. wise) But if we get HPatrols then there will be more activity throughout kitpvp.
I think this would be way better for the server, and you could add the alerts we get on skywars to the HPatrol group so they can look over people to see if they hack or not. I really think this should be thought about and put into consideration instead of just denying it due to the fact it's not the most convenient thing to bring back.
HPatrol commands to consider:
/jail
/tempban (1hr max limit)
/socialspy
/mute (1hr max)
 
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My counter to this thread,
We should remove Helpers as Staff members and make Helpers the H-Patrol, We should recruit 9 more Helpers which makes it 15 in total of Helpers. We remove Socialspy's from Helpers and it only should be available to staff members who are Mods +.

Players who are Helpers will only have their ranks on PVP servers and not Creative because thats not needed at all. This will be efficient and i won't have to see Helpers role-playing on Creative servers and they can use that valuable time on servers like Kitpvp to find hackers.

Helpers app will become more frequent as we will start demoting Helpers who aren't finding hackers or aren't active at all. Players who do a good job will then get promoted to staff which is Mod.

I think this will make our staff more effective in-terms of finding hackers and banning them and stop relying on the anti-cheat system. It also just gave 9 more hopeful players a chance of being staff member.

Players and Staff members might disagree with my opinion but i feel like being a staff should be a lot more challenging than just applying through text, back in the days i heard that players would go through a final test that would be the final decider if they are fit to be staff or not so i think being a Helper and banning players should be the final test to show you're active as I've started to notice a sudden inactivity in the team.

Just my opinion xox
 
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My counter to this thread,
We should remove Helpers as Staff members and make Helpers the H-Patrol, We should recruit 9 more Helpers which makes it 15 in total of Helpers. We remove Socialspy's from Helpers and it only should be available to staff members who are Mods +.

Players who are Helpers will only have their ranks on PVP servers and not Creative because thats not needed at all. This will be efficient and i won't have to see Helpers role-playing on Creative servers and they can use that valuable time on servers like Kitpvp to find hackers.

Helpers app will become more frequent as we will start demoting Helpers who aren't finding hackers or aren't active at all. Players who do a good job will then get promoted to staff which is Mod.

I think this will make our staff more effective in-terms of finding hackers and banning them and stop relying on the anti-cheat system. It also just gave 9 more hopeful players a chance of being staff member.

Players and Staff members might disagree with my opinion but i feel like being a staff should be a lot more challenging than just applying through text, back in the days i heard that players would go through a final test that would be the final decider if they are fit to be staff or not so i think being a Helper and banning players should be the final test to show you're active as I've started to notice a sudden inactivity in the team.

Just my opinion xox
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Also, a minimum of 1-3 hackers a week? I know there's always at least a few on daily so it wouldn't be hard to catch that. I agree with your statement, I really think helpers should be on hacker duty more often than others because then they'll be off creative, or they'll be trying hard to get their reports in and maybe go above and beyond to impress the staff. I know a few helpers who have like 10-20 pages in 2 months (give or take) and I got 50 in around 1 month just from being active and reporting 2+ hackers almost DAILY.
 
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SprinkledDonut said:
Also, a minimum of 1-3 hackers a week? I know there's always at least a few on daily so it wouldn't be hard to catch that. I agree with your statement, I really think helpers should be on hacker duty more often than others because then they'll be off creative, or they'll be trying hard to get their reports in and maybe go above and beyond to impress the staff. I know a few helpers who have like 10-20 pages in 2 months (give or take) and I got 50 in around 1 month just from being active and reporting 2+ hackers almost DAILY.
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1-3 Hackers a week isn't bad but i could ban twice as much in 1 day but it's a start and gradually once the player counts increase the requirement increases.
 
Dansors said:
My counter to this thread,
We should remove Helpers as Staff members and make Helpers the H-Patrol, We should recruit 9 more Helpers which makes it 15 in total of Helpers. We remove Socialspy's from Helpers and it only should be available to staff members who are Mods +.

Players who are Helpers will only have their ranks on PVP servers and not Creative because thats not needed at all. This will be efficient and i won't have to see Helpers role-playing on Creative servers and they can use that valuable time on servers like Kitpvp to find hackers.

Helpers app will become more frequent as we will start demoting Helpers who aren't finding hackers or aren't active at all. Players who do a good job will then get promoted to staff which is Mod.

I think this will make our staff more effective in-terms of finding hackers and banning them and stop relying on the anti-cheat system. It also just gave 9 more hopeful players a chance of being staff member.

Players and Staff members might disagree with my opinion but i feel like being a staff should be a lot more challenging than just applying through text, back in the days i heard that players would go through a final test that would be the final decider if they are fit to be staff or not so i think being a Helper and banning players should be the final test to show you're active as I've started to notice a sudden inactivity in the team.

Just my opinion xox
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Would like to agree on this point. When Helpers first get on the team, they aren't really too efficient. Making a H-Patrol which eases them into the life of staffing I think would be a great opportunity for others to get experience as well as improving the server.
 
Dansors said:
My counter to this thread,
We should remove Helpers as Staff members and make Helpers the H-Patrol, We should recruit 9 more Helpers which makes it 15 in total of Helpers. We remove Socialspy's from Helpers and it only should be available to staff members who are Mods +.

Players who are Helpers will only have their ranks on PVP servers and not Creative because thats not needed at all. This will be efficient and i won't have to see Helpers role-playing on Creative servers and they can use that valuable time on servers like Kitpvp to find hackers.

Helpers app will become more frequent as we will start demoting Helpers who aren't finding hackers or aren't active at all. Players who do a good job will then get promoted to staff which is Mod.

I think this will make our staff more effective in-terms of finding hackers and banning them and stop relying on the anti-cheat system. It also just gave 9 more hopeful players a chance of being staff member.

Players and Staff members might disagree with my opinion but i feel like being a staff should be a lot more challenging than just applying through text, back in the days i heard that players would go through a final test that would be the final decider if they are fit to be staff or not so i think being a Helper and banning players should be the final test to show you're active as I've started to notice a sudden inactivity in the team.

Just my opinion xox
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Yeah, when connor was around he did it.. I got 100% in the test in the old days I was Helper :)
 
Ksmudger said:
Yeah, when connor was around he did it.. I got 100% in the test in the old days I was Helper :)
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Same haha. I remember the Helper test, it was a good way to tell how much people know of the rules and such. But then someone joined got helper and didn't even take the test. (Which we all know he would have failed)
 
The reputation is that the Anti-cheat plugin is not accurate enough. I don't see why cloakfox/the staff seem to think that lines of code are better at finding hackers than actual players. I mean back in the days of HPatrol we banned like 15+ hackers a day, and we easily beat any number that the anti-cheat could do. Like the idea, open up some apps and let people apply.
 
I agree with sprinkled, i know many people who wanted to be part of the staff team, but didn't get accepted. H-Patrol will allow them to actually have a chance to prove themselves. ( It's also fun being a staff member :P )
 
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SprinkledDonut said:
  • Your in-game name: SprinkledDonut
  • *Is your suggestion for the server and/or forum: Server
  • *For which gamemode is this suggestion: KitPvP
  • *Description of suggestion: Let me start out by saying, yes we have anti cheat, I know that. I don't think it's very efficient with auto banning. I suggest we bring back HPatrol, and hear me out before you auto deny this. I was an HPatrol once, so was @Slabo , and @ExInfinity , and @Micm_ . We all had the potential to become staff, and we did. Sab is a current admin, Micm was a former admin and mod, exinfinity was a former helper/hpatrol and I am currently a mod. If all of them are just banning hackers on KitPvP and are able to impress the staff enough to promote them, why don't we bring that system back? It could bring us in more talent to the staff team, like it already had done in the past.
  • Possible side effects of suggestion: Less hackers, more efficient bans/less false bans (Mods+ will have to review and confirm it is a hacker) Possibly more players on kitpvp, and possibly new additions to the staff team if they can prove their worth.
  • Screenshot/Video showing suggestion: I do personally think Kitpvp needs a player base, not really a revamp. It's honestly fine the way it is (kit, map, etc. wise) But if we get HPatrols then there will be more activity throughout kitpvp.
I think this would be way better for the server, and you could add the alerts we get on skywars to the HPatrol group so they can look over people to see if they hack or not. I really think this should be thought about and put into consideration instead of just denying it due to the fact it's not the most convenient thing to bring back.
HPatrol commands to consider:
/jail
/tempban (1hr max limit)
/socialspy
/mute (1hr max)
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Cloakfox will not change it rip foxcraft Kitpvp "I miss the old dayz" ~Epicstickers
 
we need HPatrols dis anticheat got drunk and banned me. with HPatrols the only staff getting drunk is kobeer
 
It's not going to happen and if it does it's going to be worse, it always happens
 
Micm_ said:
Nice idea, personally I couldn't do HPatrol again but it would be nice to have people watching over Kitpvp once more.
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I don't know if anyone else would want to but I would certainly be willing to join the H-Patrol if you guys were to bring it back.
 
I definitely agree with this. As most people know on this network, I have youtube rank on kitpvp and I can record 120fps and 720p. Not that that has anything to do with this, but I am on kitpvp constantly and would love the chance to apply for H-Patrol. I'm not so strong on the staff side as I have been denied for reasons for not discussing. But catching hackers is something I'm good at. Take my opinion into consideration if you want.
 
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