Closed Let's revive survival!

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  • *Your in-game name: Doje and TGMDom
  • *Is your suggestion for the server and/or forum: Survival
  • *Description of suggestion: Read below
  • Possible side effects of suggestion: People enjoying survival once again
  • Screenshot/Video showing suggestion: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) no
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TGMDom's thread on this issue was denied by Jesse. He suggested trying again, but a bit more formally. So, here's my version of the suggestion to revive survival.
  • First of all, and probably the most obvious problem is that barely anyone plays survival anymore. I haven't seen any more then 20 players on survival for quite a long time. This is already proof that something needs to be changed.
  • There are quite a few reasons as to why I think so few players are staying on survival. One of these reasons is the diamond mountains. Anyone who has played survival has most likely heard of them. They are giant mountains packed with diamond ore (and sometimes emeralds too). Because of the diamond mountains, players can easily get rich in only a few hours. Not to mention that the mountains are very easy to find, especially with the world border. Many players, me included, have stacks of diamond and emerald blocks just sitting around. Survival does not have a shop (I'm glad, as I would not want a shop in survival) so players have to trade with one another to get some of the items they want. The diamond mountains completely ruin the trading economy and causing 2 of the would be rarest items to be completely worthless.
  • Silktouch spawners also have to be removed. The reason for this is somewhat the same as the diamond mountains. Players can easily x-ray spawners and get tons of them very quickly. Also, if you place a skeleton spawner in the nether, it's an unlimited source of wither skulls (which also means an unlimited source of beacons). Some people have so many spawners that they can get 20 skulls in a couple of minutes. This, as you could probably guess, also ruins the trading economy, making beacons and skulls (also very rare items) worthless. It also takes the fun out of wither boss fights, which used to be quite fun and uncommon.
  • Another thing that needs to be removed is PvP protection in claimed land. As any survival player could tell you, almost no one PvPs at spawn. Player's bases are really the only places people could fight at, and now even that rarely happens. PvP protection basically turns bases into spawns outside of spawn. There is no challenge to build a well protected base or to fight off players anymore. Mobs are pretty much the only way to die on survival, and they where never very much of a challenge. Fighting, raiding, and building a safe base where the funnest parts of survival to me (and many other survival players), and now not a single one of those things happens. Whenever I discuss this, the only response I ever get is "go play factions". No, the reason many used to play survival was because of how close to vanilla minecraft it was. Being raided, raiding, and PvPing was just part of the fun. After all, it's called SURVIVAL for a reason. This includes surviving players.
  • Custom world generation also has to go. Many players enjoyed survival because of the vanilla feel to it. The new world generation looks pretty, but it honestly isn't as fun to play on. Some biomes are also missing, for example, dark oak wood is nowhere to be found on the current survival map. Although the custom world generation looks nice, it just gets ruined because of the world border. Players only have a small portion of the world to explore. As a result, this portion gets ruined and broken. At this point, there are no perks to the custom generation
  • Remove the world border. I've talked about the reason a bit in the previous suggestions, but here's some more reasons why: I enjoyed walking far out of spawn (sometimes 60k blocks or father) to find the perfect spot to build my home and to see things that no one had ever explored before. Exploring the world was a very interesting part of survival. With the world border, you are pretty much forced to build your base underground, unless you want a ton of people walking around while you build. It was a fun challenge to find a spot where your base would be safe. It was even fun fighting off raiders when it was eventually found.
  • This suggestion is optional, although it would be greatly appreciated. Survival has had the same spawn for quite a while, and honestly I don't like the current one at all. The current spawn does not encourage PvP at all. The safe zone for the PvP area is only about 6 blocks wide. I just think it's about time for a change.
  • My final suggestion is to completely reset survival. As I've said before, players have stacks of diamond/emerald blocks sitting in their enderchests. The economy has gone to **** and almost no one plays anymore. A reset would give survival a fresh start and clean up the mess that the previous update created.
Thanks for taking the time to read this post. Hopefully Affixes and Cloakfox can take these suggestions into consideration.
 
I think we should and the crowbar for survival and make that the only way to break spawners. That way people can use silk touch pickaxes for getting sea lanterns, glass, Stone, etc.
 
I'm not suggesting that we remove silktouch pickaxes entirely, just not for spawners.
Oh I see I read it wrong. I thought you meant silk touch pickaxes. Anyway, I like the idea. I have two suggestions, Making spawners collectible for Donors or adding back the crowbar, which I liked a lot.
 
Oh I see I read it wrong. I thought you meant silk touch pickaxes. Anyway, I like the idea. I have two suggestions, Making spawners collectible for Donors or adding back the crowbar, which I liked a lot.
What? No way! The crowbar is 100% a Factions thing, and not at all for Survival. There should be NO WAY to have spawners, unless it's a Pig Spawner from the BuyCraft Store. And if you place the pig spawner in a wrong spot.. sucks for you, as there should be, once again, no way to pick them back up. This 'crowbar' idea is a terrible, as I believe that having crowbars would mean adding an actual economy, with /bal and the such, in which if that ever happened, I would probably quit. And even if it's suggested for Donors only, this is Survival, so I'd say that it should be as Vanilla as possible, in which silking spawners is not a feature.
 
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What? No way! The crowbar is 100% a Factions thing, and not at all for Survival. There should be NO WAY to have spawners, unless it's a Pig Spawner from the BuyCraft Store. And if you place the pig spawner in a wrong spot.. sucks for you, as there should be, once again, no way to pick them back up. This 'crowbar' idea is a terrible, even if it's suggested for Donors only, this is Survival, so I'd say that it should be as Vanilla as possible, in which silking spawners is not a feature.
Being able to have a spawner farm is a fun way to get experience for enchanting, repairing, Combining Items, etc. Why lose that entertaining option just to make it more Vanilla? The way I see it, more activities to do in the game could make the server more interesting. Why just a plain old pig spawner? Why should someone have to go to trouble to edit their base because they misplaced it? I think these things are what makes the survival server so boring and less popular.
 
Being able to have a spawner farm is a fun way to get experience for enchanting, repairing, Combining Items, etc. Why lose that entertaining option just to make it more Vanilla? The way I see it, more activities to do in the game could make the server more interesting. Why just a plain old pig spawner? Why should someone have to go to trouble to edit their base because they misplaced it? I think these things are what makes the survival server so boring and less popular.
Ight bro, let's calm down. I never said to get rid of spawners altogether.. I said, or rather meant, to get rid of silking them, along with the idea of the crowbar. I've played Survival for many years and have made hundreds of farms, so yes, I agree with you that farms are an obvious vanilla thing, but the idea of having spawners in an inventory? I think not. This argument is over, the topic is on Survival resetting, in which I fully agree upon.
 
I would love to see survival reset again and they could fix everything! This would most likely get more players to play survival.
 
There is literally no pvp in survival anymore and raiding is literally impossible..
If you want to raid you play factions! Survival it's ment for raiding! And btw diamond mountain should be removed! Also X-Ray isn't allowed on this server, so people shouldn't be using X-Ray anyway! I think silk spawners souls stay!
 
If you want to raid you play factions! Survival it's ment for raiding! And btw diamond mountain should be removed! Also X-Ray isn't allowed on this server, so people shouldn't be using X-Ray anyway! I think silk spawners souls stay!
Did you not read "the only response I ever get is "go play factions". No, the reason many used to play survival was because of how close to vanilla minecraft it was. Being raided, raiding, and PvPing was just part of the fun. After all, it's called SURVIVAL for a reason. This includes surviving players."? Also, the fact that X-Raying isn't allowed doesn't stop people from using it. Silk spawners allows people to make exp farms where you get 30 levels every minute.




















get out skrub
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Why in the world would you say that many Staff have said that survival isn't ment for raiding and it isn't!
One word, "SURVIVAL"
 
Did you not read "the only response I ever get is "go play factions". No, the reason many used to play survival was because of how close to vanilla minecraft it was. Being raided, raiding, and PvPing was just part of the fun. After all, it's called SURVIVAL for a reason. This includes surviving players."? Also, the fact that X-Raying isn't allowed doesn't stop people from using it. Silk spawners allows people to make exp farms where you get 30 levels every minute.




















get out skrub
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One word, "SURVIVAL"
That isn't anyone's fault that they didn't listen to the rules!
 
Why in the world would you say that many Staff have said that survival isn't ment for raiding and it isn't!
Also, I played survival mostly because I didn't like shops,claiming, and economy. I wanted to play a survival server that was closest to vanilla and you could actually raid people and defend your base. That was the best part! Now survival is basically for pussies. Please just stop saying "go play factions" because it's never gonna help the situation ..
 
That isn't anyone's fault that they didn't listen to the rules!
I give 0 fucks about who's fault it is. What I'm saying is that people are going to use X-Ray anyway, and X-Ray allows people to get a **** ton of spawners. Players having a **** ton of spawners messes up certain aspects of survival.





now go blaze weed in your mother's basement.
 
If you want to raid you play factions! Survival it's ment for raiding! And btw diamond mountain should be removed! Also X-Ray isn't allowed on this server, so people shouldn't be using X-Ray anyway! I think silk spawners souls stay!
Haha, I'm pretty sure that that's the exact opposite of what the people who play Survival want.. Do you even play Survival anyways? How on Earth would you want a say in the Survival community when you've never spent a good amount of time on it.
 
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