Closed PvP in claims vote

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Ksmudger

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  • *Your in-game name: Ksmudger.
  • *Is your suggestion for the server and/or forum: Survival
  • *Description of suggestion: To enable PvP in claims again, the main reason for it being disabled was because of the killing of players, I hugely disagree with this because there is no way of defending your bases, people have attacked me and I've attacked them, and there's no way of defending yourself, this is a huge issue even if it'd allow people to be safe inside of their claims, there is still ways to damage or force people away from their bases or land, which is why they'd need the privilege to be able to fight back to defend their base, also stops the construction of arenas and other things that people want to protect from being griefed, I've watched a few players quit because of it, since players can sit inside their claims and cuss at you without you being able to do anything about it, and many have suggested I create a thread against it, and that's exactly what I am doing right now. If there's an explanation to why it's been disabled and can fight off these points on how removing PvP in claims could be bad.
  • Possible side effects of suggestion: People are able to defend their bases, just because they can't kill you does not mean damage cannot be made, based on what I've seen on other servers. Survival died when raiding was removed, the pvp being removed may be the complete killing point for many pvpers or veteran players who enjoy pvp but still like the things claims offer like being able to build cities or bases, (which is why I and multiple other people decided to stay on Survival and a few other reasons)
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  • P.S. @TotalMM @cloakfox I believe you also removed it because of my teams killing of players, a while ago I agreed with TotalMM that I would not attack any innocent players who have not wronged me in some way, I have proof if needed of threats towards me that caused me to go on a killing spree IF needed please ask here or PM me, either way I shouldn't of been punished or being punished for doing this as PvP is in games for reasons not only defending but attacking also.
 
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If you remove pvp from survival, it will die even more than it just has. If you wanted us to move to anarchy, you should've made it like the classic survival, not some moneygrabbing, rank-removing, one-sethome, unpopular and failing server. Add pvp back, you have to stop being salty that your *********** flopped.
 
Cloakfox it SUCKS that you did this, survival wont be better now... You tried to make it better well... The only thing you did was making it worser... Sorry for telling you the truth :\
 
There's ways to do damage, and is completely unfixable and unavoidable
Placing lava near players or fire is also disabled with this update, I believe there are no ways now.
Anyway if you are able to hit players outside their claims, and they quickly run inside you will still be able to kill them, to keep things fair.
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Cloakfox it SUCKS that you did this, survival wont be better now... You tried to make it better well... The only thing you did was making it worser... Sorry for telling you the truth :\
Good thing there is anarchy were everything you guys did on survival is allowed.
 
Placing lava near players or fire is also disabled with this update, I believe there are not ways now.
Anyway if you are able to hit players outside their claims, and they quickly run inside you will still be able to kill them, to keep things fair.
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Good thing there is anarchy were everything you guys did on survival is allowed.
Ok, that's something (that lava near players was already a thing anyway) but there is still ways and it has happened to me before and it sucks (when I didn't have gear to fight) and that's how I think people will feel even with overpowered items.
 
Placing lava near players or fire is also disabled with this update, I believe there are no ways now.
Anyway if you are able to hit players outside their claims, and they quickly run inside you will still be able to kill them, to keep things fair.
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Good thing there is anarchy were everything you guys did on survival is allowed.
It isn't that fair at all?
[doublepost=1481823035][/doublepost]Now ppl will make Massive claims so they are save for other ppl!!
 
Well actually is, if you hit a player outside his claim, and he/she runs back inside to hide. You could still kill them. To prevent trolling and the sort.
I respect your decision, but when this used to be a thing a year ago, people would tease you inside their bases, which I remember and it was so annoying and glitchy when you tried to pvp (even running in claims sometimes meant you didn't get hurt even if combat tagged) which I think is probably the main reason for the outcry on this feature.
 
also ppl can trap you ez cuz they can tp you into a claim and then you cant do anything against him / her to kill him / her
 
Well actually is, if you hit a player outside his/her claim, and he/she runs back inside to hide. You could still kill them. To prevent trolling and the sort.
also ppl can trap you ez cuz they can tp you into a claim and then you cant do anything against him / her to kill him / her
Exactly, another point I forgot to include, Survival is filled with new players or players inexperienced with fighting or defending themselves who do not know who to trust, traps could easily be made to trick them, I think your intentions are good, but in the end it may cause more damage than good.
 
also ppl can set a home close to a claim and run in it, Its happening rn on survival. YOU FUCKED UP SURVIVAL SRS!!!
we cant do anything against it.... Cuz we CANT kill defensive players or whatever AND its a save pvp zone.... FIX IT SRS
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Well actually is, if you hit a player outside his/her claim, and he/she runs back inside to hide. You could still kill them. To prevent trolling and the sort.
Sometimes... If they set a home 1 block next to the claim they can run in rlly fast and have a protection called: you cant hit devensive unjured players or whatever... IT SUCKS CLOAK
 
I could care less to be honest. I love to pvp and kill people though. I do not think that is allowed in survival though. That is why we have anarchy @cloakfox, right?
 
I respect your decision, but when this used to be a thing a year ago, people would tease you inside their bases, which I remember and it was so annoying and glitchy when you tried to pvp (even running in claims sometimes meant you didn't get hurt even if combat tagged) which I think is probably the main reason for the outcry on this feature.
This has been fixed ages ago in the plugin.
Exactly, another point I forgot to include, Survival is filled with new players or players inexperienced with fighting or defending themselves who do not know who to trust, traps could easily be made to trick them, I think your intentions are good, but in the end it may cause more damage than good.
Exacly the reason pvp is now disabled inside claims.
 
I could care less to be honest. I love to pvp and kill people though. I do not think that is allowed in survival though. That is why we have anarchy @cloakfox, right?
It's allowed, but cloakfox wanted to avoid it as much as possible, which I think is a mistake based on previous gameplay.
 
I could care less to be honest. I love to pvp and kill people though. I do not think that is allowed in survival though. That is why we have anarchy @cloakfox, right?
Yeah but anarchy is a desperate attempt to make money. Why is it doing so **** right now anyways? Because it is. People wanted the old survival, with hopper raiding, protected blocks, a GOOD spawn, active players, LOTS of sethomes, a connorville. Cloak's just ruined it.
 
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My whole reasoning behind this is to promote the more creative side of survival, less pvp and more building. Big towns/city's without having to worry about pvp. Just genuinely having a good time with friends on a survival server.

Anarchy is a whole gamemode made for exacly what you guys want.
 
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